Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? 4. Timeline of the first men

Ok, going back to Genesis 5, I decided it would be interesting to make some graphs of the ages of these men who reached a huge age.

This was hard to do, as I tried to make timeline graphs with OpenOffice Calc and it didn’t come out well in numerous attempts.   Instead, I have made a spreadsheet with one cell representing ten years.   The coloured bars change when the first son is born.

People today are lucky if 4 generations of a family are alive at the same time.   These figures in visual format show at one point nine of these ten men were alive simultaneously!   This would make family parties really interesting.

Noah was 600 when the flood came, which previous fathers had already passed away.  We don’t know when Noah passed away, or how old his sons are, so I made some approx guesses using black dots.

Later, God limited the lifespan of man considerably in Genesis 6.  I’ve added another bar in comparison,

1. Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 2. Noah’s era (Genesis 5) – 3. Up to Christ (Luke 3) – 4. Timeline of the first men

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Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 3. Upto Christ

ok so I took the list and first 10 flipped it and took the first bit to match Genesis 5.

Luke 3 has 76 people;

23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melki, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josek, the son of Joda, 27the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, 28the son of Melki, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29the son of Joshua, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon,d the son of Nahshon, 33the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Kenan, 38the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam,

I would say Genesis 5 quite possibly yes;

There are some holes here.   Once I’ve copied the data from the spreadsheet on my PC into Google Docs format, I can’t edit the Hebrew easily as this seems to be a bug in Google’s handling of non-Latin text.    I’ve just added grey to parts unknown.

Or, here is the document I have hosted by Google.

Some of the fathers have a name duplicated, and some of them are too obscure for historians to know much about.

So Luke 3 doesn’t spell out anything easily understandable if you read it in upwards or downwards.   So I would think this doesn’t show a gospel message that’s obvious, but you can read the results and see for yourself.   Genesis 5 seems quite plausible though.

1. Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 2. Noah’s era (Genesis 5) 3. Up to Christ (Luke 3)

Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 2. Noah’s era

Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors?  See my first article yesterday.

Genesis 5 : 1 When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. 2He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created. 3When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. 4After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died. 6When Seth had lived 105 years, he became the father of Enosh. 7After he became the father of Enosh, Seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters. 8Altogether, Seth lived a total of 912 years, and then he died. 9When Enosh had lived 90 years, he became the father of Kenan. 10After he became the father of Kenan, Enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters. 11Altogether, Enosh lived a total of 905 years, and then he died. 12When Kenan had lived 70 years, he became the father of Mahalalel. 13After he became the father of Mahalalel, Kenan lived 840 years and had other sons and daughters. 14Altogether, Kenan lived a total of 910 years, and then he died. 15When Mahalalel had lived 65 years, he became the father of Jared. 16After he became the father of Jared, Mahalalel lived 830 years and had other sons and daughters. 17Altogether, Mahalalel lived a total of 895 years, and then he died. 18When Jared had lived 162 years, he became the father of Enoch. 19After he became the father of Enoch, Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 20Altogether, Jared lived a total of 962 years, and then he died. 21When Enoch had lived 65 years, he became the father of Methuselah. 22After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked faithfully with God 300 years and had other sons and daughters. 23Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years. 24Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away. 25When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he became the father of Lamech. 26After he became the father of Lamech, Methuselah lived 782 years and had other sons and daughters. 27Altogether, Methuselah lived a total of 969 years, and then he died.  28When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son. 29He named him Noah and said, “He will comfort us in the labour and painful toil of our hands caused by the ground the Lord has cursed.” 30After Noah was born, Lamech lived 595 years and had other sons and daughters. 31Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 777 years, and then he died. 32After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.

Ok, after copying my spreadsheet into Google Documents here it is:-

Or, here is the document I have hosted by Google.

So bear in mind, I only know a handful of Hebrew words and phrases and can’t write whole sentences, but I do know when you copy a phrase from one language to another, grammar and words might be the wrong way round, but therefore if you read it as “God brought up a man, whose death, then rising up would make comfort”  it loosely makes sense!

The long list of names in Luke 3 is more complicated as I’ll show in next article.

1. Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 2. Noah’s era (Genesis 5) – 3. Up to Christ (Luke 3)

Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? 1.

Does the Bible’s list of descendants Of Jesus from Adam and Noah in Genesis 5 and Luke 3 spell out a secret phrase predicting who the Messiah would be?

There are 76 male descendants of Christ back to God.

luke3 fathers 1I was at a Christian event where were taught healing and prophecy, but this was in the context of praying for each other.   I had several things spoken over me from people I have not previously met that were consistent with my life with Christ so far, and many were touched by the Holy Spirit and it was a great evening.   Someone mentioned in passing that Jesus’s life and ministry

Someone mentioned in passing that Jesus’s life and ministry were predicted by the names of male characters in the bible.  Just like one of my favourite shows Mythbusters (I work in IT so I like all things science)  I wanted to try and research this myself without cheating and looking at someone else’s writings first.

I’m trying to learn databases and ways of managing large amounts of data to change careers in the near future.  Firstly, I copied a chunk of text from Luke 3 and put it into a spreadsheet.  When I copied the names in columns into Hebrew with Google translator, some didn’t copy and some came out wrong like this:-  Jesse ג’סי which should be יִשַׁי.

The letter J doesn’t exist in Hebrew.   Of course, lots of Hebrew names are popular with non-Jews like me, ie; Jonathan, John, Joseph, Jacob.   These names originally started with a Y.  When words with J are transliterated into Hebrew, they have a Gimmel (G type symbol) and an apostrophe, to kind of bodge it to make it readable by Hebrew speakers.  Therefore I had to do a lot of Google searching to find out the original names and meanings.

Genesis 5 shows the Father/Son relationships from Adam to Noah, but Luke 3 shows them backwards from Jesus (including David and Abraham) to Adam.

1. Are there predictions of Jesus’s life in the name lineage of his ancestors? – 2. Noah’s era (Genesis 5) – 3. Up to Christ (Luke 3)

The myth of Palestinian nationalism – part one

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IMG_20160606_151306966_HDR - smallOften common mainstream opinion these days is Israel “goes and helps itself to someone else’s land and justifies it by religion and nationalism.”    But actually, when you look at history this isn’t true.

I found this old book at a library of a charity I was working for in 2016, but one with no interest in Israel.   Its a Reader’s Digest Atlas, its first printed in 1965 and this edition is from 1982.

Contemporary maps may mark out the West Bank and Gaza regions as ‘Disputed territory’ just to be even-handed and diplomatic.

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Jerusalem was recaptured by Israel in the Six Day war of 1967.   Therefore much of this book predates it.   It would appear the 1972 reprint didn’t show a modern Arab Palestine.   Before 1948 Israel was the British Mandate of Palestine, and before 1918 it was owned by Turkey.

A new proposed Palestine is proposed as being sovereign Arabic nation, this is actually a modern concept which leaders around the world are trying to make a reality to appease Islamic authorities in the name of peace.   They are severely misguided.   The most well known father of Islamic Palestinian nationalism is Yasser Arafat.    Who was born in (cough ahem) Cairo, Egypt.

Palestine as a name was invented by Roman emperor Hadrian in AD120.   When crudely transliterated into Arabic, it is pronounced Filastin.   This is because the Arabic language doesn’t have a letter P.

You might think “hold on, you can’t gauge history by just one book?”   – well if you care to look at reliable sources of history, rather than Islamic sources you will find this to be correct.

 

Southern France / Pyrenesse trip – Toulouse’s churches

Toulouse is a large city in France.   I turned back here after I could not proceed any further towards Andorra, see the previous article.

Bars, cafes and shops have all the charm you would expect to see in a French city.

France has a history based on Catholicism, today it is a very secular country.   There are not many evangelical Christians.

When I visited, I did see a nice Christian bookshop which was shut when I went past it on a Thursday evening.

I also saw this really nice church, it’s the Notre-Dame du Taur

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Stain glass windows are some of the best I have seen.

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This painting of Jesus’ trial looks really good, with his disciples to the right, the Sanhedrin and Roman leaders in the middle and members of the public on the left.

IMG_20170923_181804305My church in London sponsor missions in France, as there is a shortage for those to spread the gospel as Africa, Asia or South America.

In another part of Toulouse, I spotted this mission tract whilst waiting for the traffic lights, hope more of these do get seen by the French people.

Here’s the book shop I found above.

Introduction – Newspaper danger – Occitane, little known district of France & wannabe new nation – No Andorra for me – Toulouse’s churches –

Southern France / Pyrenesse trip – No Andorra for me

From travelling around places that interest me in the Bible in Israel and Turkey, and visiting China and Canada and Europe in recent years, I’ve not actually got so stuck travelling and had to give up, until now.

Here’s the problem:-

Getting to Ax le Thermes was not too hard, but my RyanAir flight to Toulouse was cancelled and I had to fly very early Thursday morning.  Then the trains in France had a strike, so I had a replacement bus service.   The trains don’t go to Andorra, so I go to Ax le Thermes, its a pretty town on the outskirts of the Pyrenesse, about 30km away.   I thought it would be simple to take a bus into Andorra itself.  Turns out these are only 3 times a week.    I was told by a lady behind a bar it would be 120 Euros to get a taxi.

andorra plateI even tried doing some hitchhiking.   Doing this made me feel a bit silly, as I don’t think I’d ever pick up a stranger either.  I saw quite a few cars driven by local Andorrans which have plates on their cars like this one.  After an hour of no one stopping, I headed back into the town for another beer.

Borders into countries often aren’t drawn up by government people with a sharp pencil and a ruler either, spot the tiny piece of Spain above the French border?

I would recommend travellers to Europe’s hard to reach mini country should start from Spain and go northwards and you might need a rental car.

So, a quick 60 Euros later and I had a hotel in Ax Le Thermes and headed my way back to Toulouse the day after.

Introduction – Newspaper danger – Occitane, little known district of France & wannabe new nation – No Andorra for me – Toulouse’s churches

 

Southern France / Pyrenesse trip – Occitane, little known district of France & wannabe new nation

Ok, I’ve just seen the shocking riots in Spain over Catalan independence.   I’m not sure if a new country of Catalan is a good idea, nor am I happy with the Spanish authorities beating people up at an election.

I saw the yellow and red stripey flags in Barcelona back in June 2017 when I was there, now I seem similar ones in France.   First of all, I saw this unusual bookshop whilst I was in Toulouse:-

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So I’ve learned this week, that Occitan is an obscure old language spoken in southern France.

Now that this particular county/district has been revived, it would appear the next step is towards pushing another independent nation.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/decret/2016/9/28/INTB1617888D/jo

This link from a French government site mentions a new province called Occitanie established in September 2016.

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Notice the star-shaped emblem which reminds me a bit of the Maltese cross.   These oval stickers with one or two digit letters don’t point towards a country or province but towards a nation rather than a county.

So it would seem that Occitan nationalists would aim to make this bottom part of Spain including Toulouse theirs?

Well, I came here to see the little mountain country of Andorra and didn’t expect this close by.

Introduction – Newspaper danger – Occitane, little known district of France & wannabe new nation